Why don't you go find some fucking data which backs up your assertions. I know and you know they're basically a hop, skip and jump into free-association and fucked-up logic but I'll indulge you just this once. Find some data that says the Engineering MBA's are the ones who did the most outsourcing.
If an Engineer gets an MBA, moves to a company and then starts to slash and burn the personnel and source talent from Currystan then it's an MBA doing that, not an Engineer.
No-one is this dumb. You have to be trolling or on meds or a complete fruitbat.
I can't be bothered. All you do is jump around and double-speak. You completely ignored the post about the fruitbat who fucked HP over, for example.
What you fail to understand is that you originally implied that a B.A. was worthless. That a liberal arts education was the domain of fruits who contributed little to business, and none to engineering.
Which is correct.
You implied that engineers can solve any kind of problem. You implied that MBAs and liberal arts fruits were responsible for outsourcing and other business travesties.
I pointed out that in the last two decades, the largest percentage of business managers have engineering backgrounds.
Yes but one isn't related to another. How many Engineers actively sought out an outsourcing solution? I'd say that number was likely very low.
I then took you by the hand (gently, mind you) and tried to reason with you. I told you that most MBAs also have engineering backgrounds. They were people similar to yourself. Thus, instead of blaming others for the business travesties you have observed during your life, you should blame you and your ilk first.
Again, MBA's from an Engineering background doesn't mean Engineers are doing the outsourcing. You'll find it's the pure business types and liberal arts faggots suggesting that.
I stated very clearly that engineers are trained to solve engineering problems, and you stated clearly that people who weren't engineers should stay the fuck away from anything technical. I countered this by saying that complex business problems are best solved by a diverse team which would naturally include engineers. You dismissed this.
Because it's horseshit. Complex problems ARE best solved by Engineers, not faggot hipsters who think a giant airbag deploying under an aircraft will make it crash-survivable.
Adjust the lighting, dude. Effective solutions are often the least elegant.
Bullshit. It's the other way around. You just couldn't crack it as an Engineer so now you lobby for continued abstraction to include fields you found acceptance in. IF it's a technical field then the Engineers do the technical part without interference from whale song faggots who should be dressed as clowns chained up in a pit and shot at for our amusement.
Stop behaving like a precious little faggot. You are SUCH an academic. If you behaved like this in any place I ever worked you would be fucked-up and fired in that order.
I try to be fair to everyone when I'm talking but he's just jumping around. Saying one thing then denying it. Engineers can't or shouldn't be business people according to Sean because they can't do business and that some whalesong faggot suggesting we paint everything pink would be better.
I submit that the worse ones to ever let near a business are the pure business types who know nothing about anything besides what they learned in academia and apply that rigidly. Let the Accountants handle the money, the Engineers develop and produce the product / service, the strategy boutique faggots do the marketing and keep everything in-house. Let the people who know the company best run the fucking thing.
So being an Engineer precludes us knowing about anything other than Engineering?
You seriously need to get the fuck out of academia and experience some real-life situations. Situations where you want to strangle the fuck out of some hipster who just made a suggestion which amounted to killing everyone and having a little dance.
Your first two paragraphs are unrelated wank so I'll ignore them.
The whole point of Engineering is making the path where one wasn't before. It's not an Engineers job to understand the market, although it would help if he was in business on his own; it's an Engineers job to solve a problem or find a solution.
The point Sean misses completely is that a lot of Engineering IS actually visionary and almost spiritual. I guess he maybe tried for Engineering and failed miserably so now Engineering is bad and the root of all evil despite having a hand in just about everything he does, sees or experiences.
I know what I'm talking about. I have experience of your type of management where soft-and-fluffies have been allowed into the hallowed halls of the big balls where real decisions are made. It's usually a massacre and lots of times I've seen some faggot running down a corridor in tears because their suggestions were laughed out of the room.
Why do we have to buy these silly markers anyway?
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Because legislation states that 25,000 volt cables NEED TO BE FUCKING MARKED!
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OK, fine, next item...why do we need such a big ugly hoarding up all the way around the site?
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Dylan, get out, now! Otherwise they may try to eat you!
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So, what? Get faggots in to run everything? Pack the Engineering offices to the rafters with howling Gen-Y queers listening to Gregorian chants and 'imagineering' shit? That would never work in any technical-based field.
Take Google for example; a huge fucking company who own all their shit and when they need to develop for something they just build a new data centre and start hiring talent from that area. They provide the vision, Management provide the oversight and the foot soldiers churn out the product. I can understand a company like Google needing a global footprint more than Boeing.
But go ahead, fill Boards everywhere with your hooting gaylords who need four hour lunches, office massages and dark rooms to contemplate. Worked so well for the DotCom boom.
to my fellow Nazis
