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9/8/2011 5:29 pm

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This deserves a bump.
9/8/2011 5:27 pm

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. said:The pledge is optional, so you have no point.



Sure, as long as you don't mind failing the course and getting beat up on the playground.
9/8/2011 5:03 pm

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. said:
"This is just really stupid," Jack Steele of Duxbury, whose son was killed Afghanistan last month, told the Herald.

"I just find it so disrespectful when I look at the number of men who have given their lives so we could live the way we want."




This I never got. How does forcing kids to swear loyalty oaths to God and the state show honor to his son?
9/8/2011 4:57 pm

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Watch this!
9/8/2011 4:55 pm

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. said:When did I try to force you to share it? Again, the faithful and organized religion are not the same. Many, many atheists do in fact say that the faithful are not welcome to their beliefs. They are worse at proselytizing than Christians. And very angry.

If you take any religion course or especially Philosophy of Religion you'd see that many great minds and even organized religions do not reject or damn the idea of the many paths to a single ideal.



Organized religion used to burn you at the stake for having even a slightly different view of the trinity. There is no major religion that believes in "many paths to the same ideal". All major religions have killed people who had the wrong beliefs when the religion gained power for one reason or another.

Now I'm sure there's some professor of Religion at a college somewhere who believes in "multiple paths to a single ideal". But it's not anywhere near a majority of religious people.
9/8/2011 4:21 pm

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. said:It's weird that the kids are one quarter Asian, but they look 100% Asian.



That's what the "Asian look" is all about. It's a group of genes that gives a sexually attractive look and is mostly dominate, so it spreads very quickly. It seems to have spread across Asia in only the last 3 to 8 thousand years.
9/8/2011 4:16 pm

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Why did they cancel it?
9/8/2011 4:14 pm

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This place was hacked a long time ago. They can even pickup email addresses from the login and messages.

As you can see, I'm on my third moniker here. The more you complain about it, the better they like it.
9/8/2011 3:28 pm

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. said:Fairy tale believers - please tell me why the ancient greek religions are now condescendingly called "Greek Myths"? Why is it considered obsurd to worship, say, Posiedon these days? Mmmmmm?



:crickets:



What's even funnier is that many mainstream Christian beliefs today would have got them burnt at the stake 500 years ago. :laugh:
9/8/2011 3:25 pm

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. said:You're just proving my point.What is the fear in just saying god? Why do you have to say all that?
All you have to say is god. Nothing more, nothing less.



Well, ok. I don't like the fact that the American pledge of Allegiance requires you to pledge allegiance to God. He isn't an elected official.

Happy?
9/8/2011 3:10 pm

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tituspullo said: :backpedal:


It is a confirmed miracle,, refute it or shut up.



I don't know what defines a "miracle". Of course, no one denies that those sort of disease often go into remission.
9/8/2011 3:08 pm

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. said:That's what I don't understand. Why is it so difficult for an atheist to say god or "a" god? Why do you have to say mythical being, sky fairy, or any of the other names you have? Are you that afraid that by saying it that you might be showing an even slight bit of faith in a religion?



Well, you have to admit, saying "I don't like people pledging allegiance to my Lord God the Eternal Creator of the Universe" doesn't make a lot of sense.

If he's God then why wouldn't I want to pledge allegiance?
9/8/2011 2:52 pm

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. said:As an atheist, I agree with you on most, if not all, of these points. "Organized atheists" are like (and actually have been) Stalinists. When atheism is used as an organizing principle for its own sake, like any other idea or movement, its adherents often insist upon ideological purity to the point where they adopt an orthodoxy more repellent than the religions they originally abandoned.

Keeping politics out of religion is one thing. Preventing people from saying "under God" in the pledge of allegiance is just attention whoring. If you dislike it that much, don't say the fucking pledge, prayer, benediction or whatever fucking else you disagree with. It's more fun (and useful) to call the bullshit pious on their hypocrisy than it is to piss off everyone all at once.



Come on. I'm an atheist. I really don't like the idea that every American is swearing allegiance to a mythical being. Especially as for practical reasons this means they're swearing to obey the orders of their ministers or preachers, and not our elected officials. :mad:
9/8/2011 2:50 pm

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That's reasonably hot. What the fuck are you looking for, Princess Lei?
9/8/2011 2:38 pm

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. said:Then don't vote for them. Or better yet, put up a candidate to oppose them. If they get voted in for those beliefs then guess what. There are more people who think like them than think like you.



That was my point. They are the average Christian, not extremists.
9/8/2011 2:17 pm

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. said:HE WAS PICKIN' AND GRINNIN' ON TEE VEE WHILE HIS STATE LITERALLY BURNED! :lol: AFTER HE CUT THE FIREFIGHTING BUDGET! AND HE APPEALED TO OBAMA TO MAKE THE FEDS PAY FOR IT! CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR HOW YOU REPUKES SPIN THIS ONE.



You've got to love the way he's now begging for the liberal states to bail him out. :laugh:
9/8/2011 2:15 pm

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. said:This is where atheist's arguments fall apart. They try to ascribe all motivations a person has to their religion. If you are Christian you must believe that the earth is only 6000 years old.
Total BS, and mostly a childs method of dealing with a group that they don't like. Take a ultra fringe belief, claim that all Christians believe it, then debunk it. Total BS..

Then there is the idea that someone who is Christian will not do anything about x (x= EPA enforcement, energy independence, fill in the blank) because Jesus is coming. Just total bullshit.

Sort of reminds me of Bill Maher. He spouts that shit non stop, and his mentally ill followers eat it up, but the reason that he has lost almost all his popularity is because everyone else sees him as a joke because he believes the shit listed above.



All of the Republican presidential candidates have come out opposed to teaching evolution in schools, have said they support Israel because it's a religious duty, and have even come out against the germ theory of disease.

You're the one who takes a few moderate Christians, and tries to convince people they represent all Christians. If that was true, why isn't one of them running for the Republican Presidential nomination?
9/8/2011 1:01 pm

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. said:She looks like a latter-day Manson girl.



That's a very good example. Manson didn't kill anybody. He didn't brainwash the Manson girls by playing them Beatles songs. The Manson girls killed those people, and they liked it. You don't hold a pregnant women's arms while your girlfriend tries to stab the fetus unless you're really, really into it.

Yet everyone is like "Look at those perky nips! Those pretty white girls must be innocent!".

Just like Amanda here.
9/8/2011 12:30 pm

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tituspullo said:Penelope, here is a modern one, refute this one

Serge PERRIN

Born on 13.2.1929

Cured on 1.5.1970, in his 42nd. year. Miracle on 17.6.1978, by Mgr Jean Orchampt, Bishop of Angers.

In February 1964, at the age of 35 years, Serge PERRIN had already received a warning with his first neurological episode, consisting of a right hemiplegia of sudden onset and equally of sudden regression.

He had another attack in December 1968, also very abrupt with loss of consciousness. Although this was treated as before, there was no regression after several weeks.

Three months after this incident, he was admitted into the Neurosurgical Unit in the Hospital at Rennes, under Prof. Pecker.

A full investigation confirmed the diagnosis of thrombosis in the left carotid artery, for which surgery was contra-indicated. So he went home.

In April 1969, the same specialist noticed that the insufficiency of his cerebral circulation was now bilateral. At this point, realising the hopelessness of his plight, Serge PERRIN went to Lourdes. He returned as bad as ever, in the same alarming state.

Deterioration was progressive, with something new... "cerebral eclipses", rare at first, becoming frequent. In October 1969, he was granted an invalidity pension of the third category, as he was unable to do anything alone.

Three months later in 1970, despite medical treatment, his condition became even worse: visual disturbances rendered him virtually blind, syncopes became more and more frequent, and his increasing disability made the thought of being an incurable invalid, with no future, almost unbearable.

He joined the Pilgrimage from Anjou in 1970 for the second time, though without any hope, but simply to please his wife.

After a very trying time, the last day arrived. In the morning he attended the Ceremony of Anointing the Sick. There he began to feel sensation return. In the afternoon, he found he could walk better without the use of walking sticks, and see better without spectacles! He left Lourdes quite convinced he was cured.



Give me an example of someone who had an arm cut off and grew it back after a pilgramage and you might convince me. Using a medical condition that even the doctors didn't understand going into remission isn't very convincing.
9/8/2011 12:27 pm

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. said:I agree with you that religion should not play a part in politics. The problem I have with the organized atheists is they are becoming an intolerant organization that reverts to petty name-calling and an elitist attitude towards anyone of faith.
It's almost as if they're just trading one religion in for another of their own design.



It's impossible for a religious person not to base his political policies on religion. If you believed in the imminent return of Christ, as Reagan and Bush did/do, how could any decision you make not be based on that belief?

Look up the statement that Watts, Reagan's Secretary of the Interior, made that implied there was no reason to worry about the environment because Christ will soon return. Now he later clarified that by quoting biblical verses saying we should protect God's creation.

The important thing to note here is that at no time did he consider that damaging the environment would cause mass health problems and food shortages. He couldn't, that's not the way a religious person reasons.

Now you talk about the intolerance of atheists, imagine how an atheist feels talking to a religious person who, by definition, believes he is in communication with God. A religious person believes that his beliefs are the beliefs of the supreme being.

How do you argue with that? How do you change the mind of a person who believes his beliefs must be true because God said they were true?
9/8/2011 12:33 am

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. said:She is completely innocent. There was absolutely no hard evidence that tied her to the crime.



Except she plainly knew about it, which is what she was convicted of.
9/7/2011 11:35 pm

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The economy isn't shrinking, it's just not expanding as much as they like. And companies are making profits without hiring more employees, which isn't supposed to happen.
9/7/2011 11:32 pm

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. said:What did she do that they locked her up?



She was living in Italy with an English girl for a roommate. She tried to get a foursome going with her boyfriend, a male friend of theirs, and her roommate, Her roommate didn't like the idea and started resisting. The friend finally ended up strangling her while Amanda and her boyfriend waited in the kitchen.

It's pretty hawt when you think about it. :tard:
9/7/2011 6:42 pm

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How anyone doesn't know Sheldon is gay I don't understand. I expect him to break out into a show tune at any time.
9/7/2011 6:40 pm

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I hate that show. I hate it when reasonably handsome charismatic hollywood actors pretend to be nerds.

What's even worse is when people expect me, being the uber nerd I am, to love that show. :mad:
 

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