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9/19/2010 11:07 am

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. said:Given millions of civilizations, however, all you need are a very few that can get off their planet before the extinction cycle, and they'll buy themselves not just another 65 million years, but also the likely ability to withstand future extinction cycles.



But what if there's not millions of planets out there with life? Life is pretty delicate, the slightest change in the earth's environment would wipe us all out. For example, it looks like the extinction event that happened 650 million years ago was caused when the oxygen level on earth dropped by something like half. Over billions of years changes like this can't be that unusual in a planet's history. Perhaps we won a sort of galactic lottery. Perhaps earth is like a guy who flipped a coin a million times and it always came up heads. Sure, it's possible, but very unlikely. Perhaps earth is the only planet that's ever gone 3 billion years without an event that would make life impossible.
9/19/2010 10:56 am

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. said:The likely problem is that there are extinction cycles on Earth lasting about 65 million years probably from an asteroid that hits and obliterates most life on Earth every 65 million years. This is probably replicated in all other solar systems.

There are also long social cycles on Earth. It takes a long time to build advanced civilizations. And they go through extinction cycles also which are called "dark ages".

So there are probably powerful forces restricting the development of advanced civilization in addition the Universe seems to have evolved to prevent interstellar communication. It is so vast.



These extinction cycles might be galaxy wide. Perhaps the black hole at the center of our galaxy sends out a pulse of gamma radiation every 65 million years or so, wiping out most life throughout the galaxy.
9/18/2010 11:26 pm

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JesusNEVERexisted said:Come on dude. That's science fiction during our lifetime. Bin Laden will be LONG gone by then if isn't dead already.

Some people feel he's already dead.

For ONE SINGLE MAN to destroy you're talking about technology that won't be around for 500 to 1000 years if at all!!



Still, it's going to come one day. And maybe not that long from now. The basic science behind a nuclear bomb is not that complicated. What happens if someone discovers an easier way to purify uranium? Or a method of causing hydrogen fusion that doesn't take a fission bomb to start?

And on a galactic scale, how does a species survive the point when one individual in the species can destroy the whole species?
9/18/2010 11:07 pm

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JesusNEVERexisted said:Bin Laden is fucking cave dweller that can't even get a suicide bombing done in America for the past 10 years after 9/11!!

Even the FBI said there was a "strong" chance of more attacks after 9/11 yet there hasn't been jack squat!!

So there is NO FUCKIN WAY Bin laden can blow up the world when he can't even get someone to blow themselves up in an American mall and kill 2 or 3 people!

:lol:

They've been talking about suitcase nukes on Art Bell for the past 20 years and all these "experts" sayin they're in terrorist hands and one could go off any day and all this garbage!!

Others say those suitcase nukes don't even exist anymore or if they do they are no longer in working order since they need to be maintained and haven't been.



Oh, I'm not arguing with you there. But as technology advances, the amount of energy one man can control increases. What happens to us when technology advances to the point where one man has the power to destroy the earth?
9/18/2010 10:43 pm

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JesusNEVERexisted said:Good point. If there was all this intelligent life out there we should be seeing even miniscule signs of it.

Maybe it's because the universe is so ming boggling large we can't even comprehend it.

Fuck!! :shrug:



Or maybe technology always advances to the point where one member of the species has the power to destroy the whole race, and no one ever get past that.

What's going to happen to us when a bin Laden can blow up the world?
9/18/2010 10:17 pm

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. said:You know, if you get some time, you should really check out a book called "The Singularity Is Near" by Ray Kurzweil. We are living in a logarithmic curve of technological advance right now. It's entirely possible that before the end of this century, human beings will:

A. Crack the aging genetic code and figure out how to prolong our own lives almost indefinitely.

B. Control nanotechnology that effectively allows us to manipulate matter on a molecular level; the implications of this are so far ranging it's impossible to list them all here.

C. Genetically modify ourselves on the fly to adapt to any situation.

For all of the cynicism that a lot of us here justly view the world through, the long term prospects for human advancement are mindblowing.



Well, that's another explanation for why there's no alien civilizations out there. They've all disappeared into a Singularity.
9/18/2010 8:29 pm

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. said:Should the aliens be able to spot our trash? It seems like distance are still too vast to spot a few deep-space satellites.



True. But how about a world emitting enormous quantities of TV and radio signals?

Or one with huge radio telescopes transmitting into deep space in a SETI project?
9/18/2010 8:26 pm

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sandman said:The problem is that we aren't going to find any evidence near us. There are intelligent civilizations out there but they are relatively rare. There might be a handful a few thousand light years away, for example.

If you widen the scope to include the galaxy or our local super-cluster, then intelligent life becomes more common.



If so, wouldn't have least one of them have built self-replicating robots? Not necessarily intelligent, just advanced enough to discover sources of ore and build other robots.

In a billion years they should be all over the galaxy by now. Where are they?
9/18/2010 7:56 pm

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. said:Fascinating how he was carrying around that memory card with him. Thank goodness he was starting to lose his own memory, being 64. If this mistake had not happened, the abuse would likely be still in progress.



Can you even imagine what a shock that would have been at the family gathering?

"Is that little Suzi with your cock up her ass?"
9/18/2010 7:54 pm

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. said:some of those planets had computers and the internet billions of years ago



So they all became :trev: and stopped breeding? That would explain it.
9/18/2010 7:52 pm

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. said:The novel Revelation Space is based on the premise that something snuffs out inelligent life soon after it achieves space flight.

I think once a technology becomes advanced enough it's probably very difficult to detect. Stuff like space probes the size of an M&M.



Yea, I read it. Great books, have you read the other ones?

But where's the space debris from those civilizations that haven't got that far?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

9/18/2010 7:44 pm

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. said:Yet every Miss Universe has been from Earth.

Space Aliens OWNED!!



:laugh:
9/18/2010 7:43 pm

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Hitler_Jr said: :classiclol: :pipe: - if this never happened and the grandpa just stopped abusing the child would have lived a normal life since she would have forgotten everything. Now, no matter how hard her parents try they will always treat her different and that will fuck her up more then any abuse.



I knew a girl once who'd been abused by gramps. Believe you me, she never forgot about it. She couldn't watch R rated movies.
9/18/2010 7:40 pm

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. said:In that panorama there is not just one, but probably millions of other civilizations. Each one of those spiral galaxies has a 10 billion year history of its own.



Then why don't we see evidence of them? Earth went from molten lava to us in three billion years. There should be 7 billion year old civilizations out there. We should be seeing stars surrounded by dyson spheres and all sorts of structures only an intelligence could create.

Hell, at the least our space craft should be seeing alien trash floating around, like coke bottles washing up on the shores of south sea islands.

Something seems to be killing them off soon after they get into space. Perhaps the SETI project is not such a good idea.
9/18/2010 6:58 pm

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. said:True. In time, she would have completely fucking forgot anything ever happened.

This is the real crime.



Why don't you go up to your grandpa, suck his dick, then let him stick it up your ass. Then come back here and tell us whether you think you're ever going to forget about it.
9/18/2010 2:27 pm

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. said:Russia had 30,000? You're an idiot. They made far more than that.

And big fucking deal in any case - the U.S. made almost 17,000 P-51's alone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_P-51_Mustang).

Overall the U.S. produced about 325,000 aircraft for the war vs. the Soviet Union's 157,000. More than 2 to 1. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_production_during_World_War_II .



Yes, I'm an idiot. But when you read of actual battles, the Germans don't have fleets of 10's of thousands of planes. That always confused me. :laugh:

"A final drive on Moscow before winter brought the climactic moment of the campaign. Operation Typhoon began in late September and scored spectacular victories against a Soviet high command again caught by surprise. Three panzer armies, supported by more than 1,500 aircraft, slashed through the strung-out Soviet defenses. Flying over 1,000 sorties per day, the Luftwaffe was a major factor in the breakthrough. On 5 October Soviet reconnaissance pilots reported a German column over twenty-five kilometers long driving along the highway between Smolensk and Moscow; the reporting pilots were almost shot for defeatism by the NKVD on their return. In early October the German advance encircled two vast pockets at Bryansk and Vyazma; by the time the fighting had died down, the Germans claimed to have captured over 500,000 enemy soldiers."
9/18/2010 1:32 pm

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. said:Of course, even without nukes. The US had complete air supremacy, massively industrialized country, and probably the best combat honed military force at the time.

While in contrast the red army was powerful in numbers but was basically a huge drunken armed mob.



It's doubtful we would have had air superiority against the Russians. The Germans thought they would have air superiority too, but the problem was the Russians produced incredible numbers of war planes, I believe over 30,000. The 4000 planes the Germans had didn't have a chance. German aces were racking up hundreds of kills each, yet that didn't even match Russian production.

What you guys are missing is that we did have a war with the Russians, and the Russians won, at least initially. The Russians conquered half of Europe. The Normandy invasion was not about Germany, it was about getting enough troops and war material into Europe to convince Stalin to keep his promise to stop at Germany. By this point he was thousands of miles from his war factories, and needed the troops for the occupation.
9/18/2010 11:37 am

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. said:I don't know if I'd go so far as to call someone who's dating Mila Kunis and likely still has millions of dollars from his days as a child actor a loser.

Especially when the OP is probably a virgin :trev: who at best has a shit cubicle job.



Yea, he's very rich. He got something like 14 million for one of the home alone sequels.
9/16/2010 7:32 pm

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m said: :hmmm: After years of war demonstrations, and even the release of the Pentagon Papers, America's involvement in Vietnam continued, unabated, until the 1973 economic crisis when the country literally could not afford to continue.

So I can't see how these hippies and their demonstrations had any effect whatsoever on the war.



Nah. China obviously offered to open up her markets to us if we got out of 'Nam. Remember Nixon's big trip to china?

Also, Kissinger was big on this theory that there was a coming stuggle over resources, especially oil, and wanted to change our focus to the middle east.
9/16/2010 6:18 pm

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PLASMA COSMOLOGIST said:Jesus. Gravity is not "variable." It does not act with increasing force at greater distance.

Yet again, try opening up your minds:

http://www.holoscience.com/news/mystery_solved.html

http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=55fx8yeh

Voyager is a funky little comet; it is interacting electrically with the Sun, which is decelerating it at a minute but steady pace.



Yea, that's what I was thinking.
9/16/2010 4:44 pm

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Wow. A new force like gravity.
9/16/2010 10:51 am

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. said:I always hated Seinfeld - the entire cast seemed to consist of whining neurotic NYC jews - and I had more than enough of that when I was living there.

Why the fuck would anyone want to watch a show filled with the sort of people that give you a barely contained urge to slice their faces open with a broken glass when you deal with them in real life?



Yea, but for people from the mid-west it was funny to see people whining all the time like that, at least for a half hour.
9/15/2010 10:51 am

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. said:He can sue, but if his job makes him sign one of those ethics codes every year like my job good luck.



Ethics code? What do you promise not to do?
9/14/2010 2:57 pm

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. said:sure, lets conveniently forget that all three happens to be jews and journalists...still think they are innocent tourists?



Yea. Hikers don't wander around aimlessly. They have to preplan their routes exactly so they don't run out of food and water.
9/13/2010 5:53 pm

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. said: :marspeople:

Let's face it, you'd have ben an itinerant worker even if the economy had been in tip-top shape. You'd still be paying for the Christmas Party each year.



That's the weird thing about it. A guy who works 30 years at IBM is no better off than an itinerant worker like me.
 

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