Posted 3/6/2010 8:26 pm
Albanians come from azerbaijan, you are asiatic oriental caucasians you have nothing to do ancient Macedonia, jeez how did you come up with that shit!
There is no dispute that his mother was Albanian. There is no dispute that his father was Macedonian and not pure Greek.
The question remains, what is a Macedonian? They are NOT Slavs/Yugos. Macs are a mishmash of Illyrian(Albanian) and Greek. But the Illyrians have been occupied that region for a long ass time too.
One can not say that Alexander is 100% Greek or even 50% but you can say that he is at least 50% Albanian.
And Greeks totally hate that because they know it is FACTS/
Posted 3/6/2010 8:37 pm
The celts claim him, the slavs claim him
the albo's claim him, next i bet the turks will claim him!
ALT [Alexander the Great] one the greatest Greeks that ever loved, i put him on par with Leonidas [Spartans] and Belisarius [Byzatine] Greek general under the emperor Justinian who was himself a great emperor!
Posted 3/6/2010 8:48 pm
Macedonia(n)...when this name is used, it refer's to Greek Hellenic people by default, courtesy of world academia (The World Body of Knowledge).
Other's wanting to usurp this name exclusively should at least properly fully explain their reasons and their motives, why a NoN Greek people should be given the rights and entitlements for it's use.
FYRoM has not properly explained to the world, it's reasons and it's motives for wanting to usurp that name [exclusively] for Ethnic use Language use and Nationality use. Global politicians and the International academic fraternity remain unconvinced and Suspicious, they have not been fully persuaded by FYRoM's positions on the matter.
For those people who for one reason or another, find Hellenism Repugnant should at least have the common courtesy to face and accept this fact, that todays Greeks are the sole and legal modern representatives of that Hellenic legacy. No other modern people on this planet are closer to the ancient Hellenes and their legacy, than today's modern Greeks.....today's Greeks will protect and defend this position, both Legally and Morally.
Todays Southernmost Slavs want this name for exclusive use in order to describe their language, ethnicity and nationality, disrespecting world academia and the teachings of recorded established mainstream European ancient history.
Macedonia.....it's ancient history is impregnated, fused, scratched into the modern Greek Hellenic peoples Collective Consciousness like a lazer beam burning a latent image deep into the surface of plexiglass or photoreceptive materials. Macedonia is inextricably attached to Hellenism,
No serious minded scholar would risk doing damage to his or her's academic integrity and credibility arguing against the teachings and intellectual clout of world academia.
After almost two decades.....global politicians have been fully briefed on the backround and the historical use of the Macedonian name. They have become learned on the matter, they are aware of it's Greek Hellenic origins and attributes.
The Onus is on FYRoM to compromise in order to find a suitable Name for itself, a Name that will properly describe the country, it's people their ethno origins and their history....and Most importantly a Name for all of it's people to be Proud of, this is what the Greeks are asking for, this is what global politicians expect and this is what the world is waiting for!
FYRoM uses the Macedonian Name Under False Pretenses......The global community can see right through it!
Posted 3/6/2010 9:49 pm
You are Slavs, you speak Slavic, you belong to Slavdom [The Slavic world].
Your Language was invented for you by the Yugoslav dictator Tito in 1944, it is a Slavic language closely related to the Bulgarian language. Your country was renamed to Socialist Republic of Macedonia from Varder Banovina in 1946 thanks to Tito and your church was created by the communist party of Yugoslavia in 1967, christians created by communist's, how wierd is that!
Everything about you [FYRoM] is fake!
Brainwashed Slavs think they are the descendants of Alexander the Great, how fakkd up is that!
Posted 3/6/2010 10:02 pm
Today, circumstances dictate that FYRoM is faced with having to take the political decision of it's life. Name change will result in the end of a long running Name dispute, it will enure that FYRoM will cease to be and in it's place shall emerge a New Country with a New Name.
This is a very real prospect, analyst's predict that resolution of the long running Name dispute could materialize sometime during this year 2010.
Since it's conception, FYRoM has been troubled with having to find a place for itself in a region of the world well known for it's contributions to world history. FYRoM has been troubled with having to "script" itself an acceptable and believable history and heritage without clashing or conflicting with it's neighbour's, a history and heritage that is original consistant and meets the criteria and compatibilities of established recorded boundaries of mainstream norms.
FYRoM's rogue scholar's, pseudo-historians and specialist propagandist's ignored world academia, they went ahead and "scripted" themselves a history so inept and so perverted, so distorted and so corrupted, so unbelievable they forced the International academic fraternity to get together to form a loose academic grouping in order to defend the virtues of recorded and established academic reference points.
FYRoM was recognized as RoM in haste and under false pretenses, ex-President Bush was issued poor ill thought out substandard advice based on flawed
political considerations which today are no longer applicable.
We are at an Impasse, a quagmire, the only way of escaping this mess and starting afresh is with the help and assistance of close friends and associates. The International community is ready to assist.
FYRoMs explanations for wanting to use a Greek Hellenic Name for language use, ethnicity use and nationality use have not been fully understood. FYRoM's Reasons and Motives remain Suspicious!
Global politicians are being polite when they say, the Onus is on FYRoM to compromise in order to find a suitable Name for itself, a Name that will properly describe the country it's people and their history....and Most importantly a Name for all of it's peoples to be Proud of, this is what the Greeks are asking for, this is what global politicians expect and this is what the world is waiting for!
FYRoM uses the Macedonian Name Under False Pretenses......Today's Greeks can Prove This at any Legal Setting.
Posted 3/6/2010 10:16 pm
FYRoM was recognized as RoM in haste and under False Pretenses. It was a Blunder a big Mistake recognising FYRoM as the "Republic of Macedonia", the reasons for doing so were based on ill thought out, Poor Substandard and Flawed Advice.
On November 4, 2004, two days after the re-election of ex-President George W. Bush, his administration unilaterally recognized FYRoM as the “Republic of Macedonia.” These Advisors to ex-President Bush issued poor, substandard, ill thought out, flawed Advice, totally disregarding World Academia, they prepared to defy the World body of Knowledge and pressed ahead with recognition at the expense of seriously upsetting Greece, a staunch and loyal long time member of Nato. These Advisors based that flawed Advice on Political and geo-political strategic considerations, which Today are No Longer Applicable.
Ill thought out, Poor Substandard and Flawed Advice....This is what was dispensed to ex-President Bush during he's Term in Office at the White House. Poor Substandard Ill thought out and Flawed Advice is what Prompted George W Bush to Recognise FYRoM as The "Republic of Macedonia".
American Administrations Pride Themselves on having access to the Best Brains of the world and they make sure to Pay them Accordingly.....So What went Wrong ?
How and more to the point Why, did these Highly Paid Advisor's issue Poor Substandard Ill thought out Flawed Advice to ex President Bush when even a Cursory Look at a historic Map of Ancient Greece from any Independent Unbiased Accredited and Non Greek Source would put that Name into the Greek Hellenic Domain. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ancientgreekmapsandmore/485525355/in/pool-ancientgreecemaps
The Map Clearly shows the Ancient Region of Macedonia geographically connected, and had they researched More, they would have found it to be Culturally, Linguistacally, and Biologically Connected with the rest of Greece and the Greek Hellenic States.
The Recognition of FYRoM as the "Republic of Macedonia" was based on Poor Substandard Ill thought out and Flawed Advice. It had More to do with putting the Greeks in Their Place than anything to do with political or academic correctness. Modern Greek Politicians were taught a big lesson for being Maverick and anti American, at least in that American Administrations eyes.
Those Adviser's gave ex-President Bush Poor Advice and left us a with a Mess which has been an ongoing source of friction and instabilty in the Balkans for the best part of Two Decades.
The Greeks were Shafted by the American Administration of George W Bush, they used Colin Powel as Front man, his name shall always be linked with
those mistakes and blunder's!
Posted 3/6/2010 10:32 pm
What about that Tentov and Boshevski study where they deciphered the middle text of the rosetta stone, proving beyond shadow of a doubt that the ancient Macedonians spoke oldchurch slavonic language in ancient times.
Ancient Macedonian were proto Slavs, thats what i know!
Posted 3/6/2010 11:03 pm
The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia [FYRoM] the newest of the Slavic countries has frequently displayed and expressed it's utter contempt for anything Greek Hellenic. Greeks considered these tantrums and outburst's as resembling acts of envy and jealousy, subsequently and much to their surprise, modern Greeks were astounded to learn that they have been Vehemently envied despised and resented by their immediate and closest southern Slavic neighbours for generations.
Slavic envy and resentment for anything Greek Hellenic is more clearly expressed through the use of Internet propaganda, plus outwardly provocative actions and irrational behaviour. The resentful tone of language directed at the modern Greek Hellenic people for having done nothing more than take up too much of a share in the ancient European history book. This state of affairs has irked and perplexed today's modern Greeks, the sheer weight and volume of these Anti-Greek sentiments harboured and expressed by their closest Slavic neighbour's has taken them very much by surprise.
If we analyse in the problem in the order of chronology, our common European history books written by qualified certified and accredited scholars, clearly we can see that the Slavonic peoples contributions to European history is telling, they appear as late arrivals into the pages and chapter's of our common European history book. Is this the core reason for outward Slavic envy and resentment towards anything Greek Hellenic. Do modern Slavs envy resent and despise modern Greeks to such a degree, all because of the amount of pages chapters and volumes our common European history books have reserved for the Greek Hellenic contributions to world and European history.
There appears to be consensus amongst the entire spectrum of Slavdoms Rogue Scholars and Pseudo Historians, they all share the View that the Slavonic Race, it's achievements contributions and acomplishments have not been properly recorded into the [anals] pages and chapter's of our common European history book. Is this the core reason why Slavdoms Rogue Scholars Pseudo Historians and Specialist Propagandist's seek to Revise in order to Rewrite Established Recorded Mainstream Ancient European history. Slavdom through FYRoM seeks to "Script" itself into the Myth's and Legends of Hellenism for suspicious reasons and motives.
In Slavdoms eyes, Alexander the Great becomes Alexander Veliki, a blond blue eyed Slav with high Slavic cheek bones, speaking the Oldchurch Slavonic language during the times of antiquity. Macedonia is Greek Hellenic, not because the modern Greeks say so, it's because World Academia says so.
The Recognition of FYRoM as the "Republic of Macedonia" was based on Poor Substandard Ill thought out and Flawed Advice. It had More to do with putting the Greeks in Their Place, than anything to do with political or academic correctness. Modern Greek Politicians were taught a big lesson for formulating then following their own Maverick policies, not seen as being part of a team [Nato] and Overtly habouring anti American sentiments, at least in that George W Bush Administrations eyes.
The Name dispute has taken on a Political dimension and an Academic dimension......World Academia will no longer allow modern politicians to forward flawed ill thought out political considerations and place them above and beyond those of Academic reference points.
Posted 3/6/2010 11:33 pm
Slavdom through FYRoM Intentionally poisons the Minds of their own children. They have Brainwashed Slavdoms Youth Beyond Repair. The Allure of Alexander the Great having Slavonic origins is bait so enticing that even the most dubious and the most flimsiest of evidence is sufficient enough to promote a Slavic Identity for Alexander the Great and the Ancient Macedonians, for the most Sinister of Reasons and Motives .
Slavdoms [Mind] Architects have instilled into the collective conciousness of their young people, Imagery of Alexander the Great and the Ancient Macedonians dressed in the military attire learned people would immediately associate with ancient Greece, except in this case, this time and only for them, the ancient Macedonians become a Slavic people, they take on the features and attributes one would associate with a stereotypical Slav.......Tall blond with blue eyes and high Slavic cheek bones. http://www.picatom.com/z/vlad_slavs-1.html
Slavs are usually depicted as being a very simple earthy type people, farmer's and worker's of the land but with strong honest and robust attributes. As can be seen from the link above, the Slavic attire, military and other bear no resemblance to the ancient Hellenic.
In Slavdoms Rogue Scholar's Pseudo Historians and Specialist Propagandist's Minds Eye........The Hellenic Ancient Macedonians become Slavic. Hellenic Imagery migrates over into Slavdoms ancient hero's. Alexander the Great becomes Aleksander Veliki a Great ancient ProtoSlavic hero.
This is what you get when you allow Rogue Scholars Pseudo Historians and Specialist Propagandist's to play around with peoples Minds.
In the Minds Eye of Slavdoms Rogue Scholar's Pseudo Historians and Specialist Propagandist's, Greeks do Not Exist and Hellenism becomes a Loaded word, for them Alexander the Great becomes Slavic, he speaks Oldchurch Slavonic in ancient times and remains one of their Great and ancient Proto Slavic hero's, for them and only for them, Macedonians were not Greeks or Hellenes, for them ancient Macedonians were Slavs.
To a Modern Greek, in his or her Minds Eye, he or she would have conjured up vivid Images of Alexander the Great and the Ancient Macedonians which over generations has been fused into their collective [memory] conciousness like a lazer beam burning and etching latent Images deep into plexiglass or photoreceptive materials. This is based on the Imagery modern Greeks would have received and Absorbed through the means of books and other educational materials, local and regional site museums plus the vast amounts of physical and material evidence supporting the native Indigenous Autochthonous status of the Ancient Macedonians to Hellas.....todays Hellenic Republic.
Macedonia(n)....when this name is used, it refer's to Greek Hellenic people, courtesy of world academia (The world body of knoweldge). The sooner Slavdom recognizes this fact the sooner we could end the Name dispute.
Posted 3/6/2010 11:47 pm
Dont trust Slavs, they are all leftwing gay lesbian radical activist's, fifth columnist specialist propagandist's, all of them!
Serb education, it's a wonderful thing.
