Posted 2/5/2012 6:22 pm
you are wrong Sinz was not stripped at the start because video from the start shows the scrum prior to her being seperated from her photographer. She her self in her own words said she was gone for 45 minutes and that she was groped until they came to a clearing and she was stripped by the older men and that both the younger teens and oldermen groped and penetrated her. She also stated a circle was formed around her and that many people were cheering and laughing and taking pictures of her while she was nude.
Posted 2/5/2012 6:25 pm
El Mahdy was swarmed and attacked but never stripped because she had enough supporters to get her to safety but yes she was in a scrum for a while and you are correct that a scrum does make it hard to video but the dutch video clearly shows her face several times and the groping taking place including her breasts.
Posted 2/5/2012 6:29 pm
As for the dutch lady I did not imply anything that was not reported by those who were there. If you had read the twitter statements by those there you would see she was stripped naked and raped repeatedly infront of her husband and it was longer then 10 minutes and that the ambulance came with police to remove her after she pasted out. You should try to read some of the stuff posted on here before jumping to conculsions. Many people wittnessed the dutch lady attack and twitted about it and very few news agencies even mentioned it. I posted a couple of other videos of other ladies caught up in the scrums and many twitter posts are listed a few pages back.
Posted 2/5/2012 6:32 pm
Also Sinz was taken away after the security forces faught their way in to her and she was completely naked in her own words. The reports she made were much later in the night after she had recovered and saw the doctor. The attack occurred during the afternoon and the reports were at night so it would make since if you are stripped naked by a crowd that you would find some cloths to put on before you broadcast a report. think?
Posted 2/5/2012 6:34 pm
It could be copy cats or the secret police using some of the same thugs to envoke fear among the protestors and media to maintain the military hold on the country and prevent free elections. Many people twittering about these attacks seem to point the finger at the secret police and their hired thugs
After the Lara Logan assault, you would think that these news organizations would send more male reporters to Egypt. Most of the journalist I see reporting in Egypt are female, like this one.
Posted 2/5/2012 7:48 pm
we thought Lara was a special case when she asked for rape last February. but it seems these stupid journalists learned nothing. you just can't feel bad for them. you know the situation there, but they still go. women need to be more responsible. if one of these journalists were my wife I would forbid them to go. end of discussion.. during these tumultuous times female journalists should report local events.
what I would do; you know how they show a smokers lung to teenagers to discourage them from taking up smoking. I would show Lara's gaping and ravaged holes to would be female journalists so they understand the dangers and perhpas not take up a profession which is unsuitable for women. if after that, they go anyway, then what can you say, they deserve whatever happens to them.
as Benjamin Franklin once said "common sense is not so common"
this is fascinating story. I have been in a similar situation. I once met a chick at a club, got a hotel room which I paid for and she would not have sex me. I was like what the fuck. i left pissed and i felt taken advantage of. this was like fifteen years ago and in retrospect I should have punched her in the face, ripped her pants off and made her earn that hotel room. but I am a niced guy, so i didn't. how many times do you think Lara or Caroline Sinz took advantage of nice guys in their lives? it makes you wonder if what happened was karma.
I'm sure CBS execs were thinking, "hey, why don't we offer them jobs as foreign corrispondants", they figure now these old ladies won't be sexually assaulted. cause I'm sure everyone at CBS is goddam sick and tired of listening to Lara whine and brood all day and everyday about "I have PTSD". they are too polites to say to Lara "yeah! I know you had fists shoved up your pussy and ass! but will you SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY!!!
Posted 2/6/2012 1:08 am
I don't think that is true. CBS Fucked UP Big time, and they failed to address the Threat before Lara got there. The ASSUMED that it would be SAFE. Where was Seal Team 5 or 7, as 6 was busy............
Posted 2/6/2012 5:54 am
Let's see how long it takes before the next stripping naked of any woman,groping,fingering,fisting and the use of penis in an all out gangrape day or nighttime.They are like sharks that have tasted blood,they will not stop.Only killing one of these rape victims,will bring the attention to these horrible crimes,that will bring the punishment it deserve.
That is just shit and you know it. Perhaps you smelled bad. Or you suddenly behaved like an ape you are. There are countless reasons for why the girl could have refused you. And what the fuck do you pay a hotel room for when meeting a girl at a bar? Normally you either drive with her to her apartment or to your apartment. But buying a hotel room looks like you were there with a hooker. Tell us honestly: It was a hooker, right? She refused you? Hookers have a high tolerance level. You must have been somewhat very drunk or smelly or both to not get what you were (hopefully) willing to pay for.
That is NOT what this is about. She she says I have PTSD and someone yells: "Yeah! I know you had this and that done to you..." it is the same as someone would say: I have severe and unimaginable phantom-hurting in the stumps of my two legs! And the answer would be: Yeah! I know your legs got blown up in the street in Haifa...will you SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY!
Do you understand what i am trying to tell you? The two levels do not match. It is a classic misunderstanding...on the part of the "Yeah! I know you had...!" bit. I go to great lengths to explain THIS to you because yelling at you SHUT THE FUCK UP is not going to do anything obviously. It would be just a second misunderstanding...on my part this time.
What would YOUR correct answer be when someone says he or she has PTSD?
Something like this: "It is horrible. I am sorry. But now you are safe. When you need something i am here for you. I read something about it so i can help you better. We will go through this together."
You cannot forbid your wife or girlfriend to do certain things. She is not your property. You can argument and if you are lucky your arguments are strong but that does not mean you can start ordering your woman around.
Concerning your shock-ideas: with the same logic you must also portray the dead blown up corpses of soldiers to steer away the young males from joining the military. With the same logic you must also portray the shot police to steer away people from becoming police-men and women. With the same logic you must show burnt and hurt firefighters to show how dangerous this job is. But why stop at that? You would also have to show shot taxi drivers, murdered supermarket cashiers, drug dead pop stars and movie stars. But why stop at that? I mean almost every job has risks. You must be an accountant...ah. I guess i know what you are ;)
