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  Objective C is fucking migraine inducing.
kirby
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fuck this shit
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mr the horse said:I got XCode 4. Definitely prefer the single window style. The thing about the API is it's so verbose. It's probably helpful when you're reading code. Not so much when you're writing it.

When I see jobs for iPhone/iPad programmers, they always want a laundry list of technologies.

After playing with Objective-C/iOS for several months, I don't see how someone could be a wizard with a laundry list of technologies. Obj-C/iOS is a full time job in itself.
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kirby said:fuck this shit

Why?
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RobertJHarsh said:COBOL!



I loved COBOL. I learned more about programming in my two COBOL classes, than all of the rest of the classes.
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I program in X++, sorta fell into it. its kinda hodge-podge of several languages.
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objective C is easy, you all are gay.
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I think the function call syntax is a derivative of smalltalk.

Would it help to have a preprocessor that translated regular C/C++ style calls to Objective-C syntax?
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. said:I loved COBOL. I learned more about programming in my two COBOL classes, than all of the rest of the classes.

Same here. My high school programming course was COBOL, because the PC didn't exist at the time.
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Objective-C sucks
Macs sucks
Apple sucks
Steve jobs sucks

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. said:objective C is easy, you all are gay.

Objective-C is relatively easy. The API is much harder.
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t said:Objective-C sucks
Macs sucks
Apple sucks
Steve jobs sucks

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Ahh… A butthurt Trev!
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Asok said:I think the function call syntax is a derivative of smalltalk.

Would it help to have a preprocessor that translated regular C/C++ style calls to Objective-C syntax?

No. The syntax really isn't the problem. The complexity of the API calls would still exist with a preprocessor.
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objective C separates programmers from scriptkiddies.
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. said:objective C separates programmers from scriptkiddies.

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I guess :spanky: won't be picking up Objective-C anytime soon...
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I grew up with NextStep machines and Objective C. It REALLY cracks me up that it is back in 2011 and is serving as a test to see who are the real men (computer scientists) and who are the faggot HTML code monkeys, desperately trying to get iPhone on their resumes!!!!!! :lol:

I used those APIs when it was obvious what the "NS" in front of them meant :lol:
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bump

Gotten any further mr the horse?
mr the horse
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. said:bump

Gotten any further mr the horse?



Yeah, I don't need to interact with the API much now. Just rendering graphics in OpenGL.
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It really is a horrible evolutionary step backwards. And in typical Apple way, every deficiency is purported to be a feature. It doesn't throw exceptions while calling methods on a null pointer, that hides errors. But hey, "IT's a feature!". It's a half-assed papering over of C. Private membership is just a suggestion. Plus, what is going on with the weird smalltalk-C bastardised syntax. Curly braces somewhere, @annotations somewhere else. In the CORE language. To define a CLASS!!! Like, WTF??? The language is obsolete. It should have died with NextStep. We have more mature languages now. Let's code with Java (borrow the syntax, write your own API and runtime), or C++, or even JavaScript!, ActionScript, VisualBasic even. Anything!!!
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fuck apple. program in Erlang instead.
mr the horse
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. said:fuck apple. program in Erlang instead.



I've been learning Haskell. Really enjoyable.
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mr the horse said:I've been learning Haskell. Really enjoyable.



i like haskell as well. These fuctional programming languages are very pretty.
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JAVA rules
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HUMANS

JCL IS THE MOTHER TONGUE.
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. said:HUMANS

JCL IS THE MOTHER TONGUE.
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Add to that IBM mainframe HLASM, and disassembling mainframe apps--loved it!
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mr the horse said:No. I learned x86 assembly and C back at college and did Java, Pascal (?!?) and functional programming using Miranda (?!?) in first year CS at university. I also used to do stuff in C using OpenGL as a hobby. All far more intuitive than Objective C's mash-up of C and Smalltalk-style object oriented faggotry.



Yea, there's nothing like a language that uses objects except you have to know the memory locations the objects use.

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